Source: Stick & String Adventures Podcast – Episode 28 – Archers Roundtable
The Continuing Conversation between
Ned Miller – Let’s talk about quivers. Quiver building, your recommendations for new archers, and your experiences with quivers so far. Jason, obviously from the name of your business, Rasher Quivers, you are heavily involved with building quivers. I figured that we could start off with you on the quiver topic.
Jason Albert – From a newbie’s perspective, I say, go with what you want. I have three or four different quivers for every situation. I would suggest starting with a pocket quiver. It’s the easiest way to go. It’s pretty versatile. It will get you out there and get you started at a low price.
Ned Miller – That’s interesting that you say that because that wouldn’t have been my first thought, but from what you are saying it makes a lot of sense. What about function with a pocket quiver? Why is that your suggestion?
Jason Albert – Because when you are first starting off you don’t really need the whole kit-n-caboodle. You just need to get out and start shooting. You could just put your arrows in your pocket if you wanted to, but of course the arrows would eventually poke a hole in your pocket.
A pocket quiver is light and it get’s you out and get’s you going until you figure out exactly what quiver you want for the different situations you’ll be shooting.
Ned Miller – Can you touch on a little bit of a functioning standpoint. I mean, you have a back quiver, pocket quiver, side quiver, the backpack style quivers. Anything that a new user should avoid.
Jason Albert – A new user should avoid a bow quiver because they don’t know the basics of tuning yet. I have said on the podcast’s before that I am 100% against a bow quiver. I think that they are the worst thing that anybody could do for their bows and their accuracy.
Ned Miller – Is that coming from personal experience?
“When I took my shot that quiver made so much noise that the turkey was gone before the arrow even left the bow.”
Jason Albert – Yeah, from personal experience. I went turkey hunting in Texas. It was probably 1993. I was using a compound bow with a bow quiver. It was probably about an eight kilometer hike out to the place that I was going to be hunting. Somehow or another, while I was out there doing that hike, I rattled that bow and it seemed a little bit loose off the quiver. When I took my shot that quiver made so much noise that the turkey was gone before the arrow even left the bow.
Ned Miller – Wow. I can understand what you’re saying then. I guarantee that there are listeners and there’s guys that I run into that are 100% the other way of what you are saying. They would one-hundred percent recommend the bow quiver, but this is the point of The Archer’s Roundtable. That’s to get everybody’s perspective and that’s a very interesting take on the bow quiver.
Jason Albert – You also have to remember the tuning aspect. When you put a bow quiver on your bow, it changes the whole tuning of your bow. It’s going to shoot differently with that bow quiver on it than it is without the bow quiver.
Nick Viau – I agree too. I have used a bow quiver for about three seasons now. I do think they make noise. I think Jason’s argument was a little bit skewed because he was using a compound bow. They do have bow quiver’s for compound bows that are very, very quiet. Other people swear by them so I’m not going to base it on that. He does have a point. They’re noisy in other ways. The one thing I don’t like about them is that they’re great to get to your blind. I’ve always used them to get to where I’m going to hunt and to move, but I always take them off. The reason is that I hold my bow on my lap a lot. Whether your doing that or hanging it up, or whatever your doing, you have that fletchie down there. You can bump it or you can scrape it if it doesn’t sit right on your lap when the bow quiver’s on your bow. There’s just a lot of things that get in the way. Not only that but from a visibility sand point, having all that baggage on your bow while you’re trying to get a shot off on something. That’s more to get in the way and that’s more to see, especially of your arrows are brightly fletched. It becomes kind of cumbersome. I know that a lot of guys swear by them and there’s nothing better for transporting your arrows to your blind. You have them right on your bow while you’re maneuvering your bow through the woods and they don’t go anywhere, but I always found myself taking them off once I get there.
Now the tuning aspect of it isn’t that bad if you account for a couple pounds here and there. You do have to tune for them, like Jason said. So if you are going to shoot one all the time then you better leave it on there, but going on and off is going to adjust it a little bit.
Ned Miller – That’s interesting because I’ve never even used a bow quiver so I have to default to both of you on this one. I just never really had the desire to do that, but it’s interesting to hear both of your takes on this.
Jason Albert – Then you have to remember too that arrows don’t weigh much. However, as you take one arrow out of that bow quiver, your tuning is going to change a little bit. if you take two arrows out of that bow quiver, your tuning again is going to change a little bit.
Ned Miller – That’s a good point. So Jason, you’re recommending the pocket quiver just starting out, but avoiding the bow quiver. Nick is there a particular style of quiver that you’ve had, that you have experience with, that you would recommend to a new archer?
Nick Viau – I’ve actually been using a pocket quiver. I got a pocket quiver just this year. I own seven different style of quivers right now. I don’t think that there is a perfect quiver for every situation. I started out with one of those seven dollar side quivers that clip to your belt and it’s got a holder for you pen and all that stuff. I started out using one of those and I used it for quite a while. One thing that I did find was that they’re always in your way when you’re shooting. You’re hitting them with your thigh and stuff like that. I prefer a pocket quiver now unless it’s raining. Like Jason said, it’s pretty natural to just want to put the arrow in your pocket so it becomes one of the most convenient quivers that there is if you just stick it in that pocket quiver. It’s the easiest thing in the world to use. They’re also the easiest thing in the world to make if you want to get started with them. You wouldn’t need much. Just something to protect your back pocket. So that’s something to think about.
Ned Miller – What about from a hunting in the woods perspective? What are you using?
Nick Viau – I have tried everything. Like I said, I used a bow quiver for a long time. I liked it until I got to my spot, then I didn’t like it anymore. I shot with my deer with a bow quiver on my bow. It was a Thunderhorn Boa.. I actually sold that shortly after. The only bow quiver I actually like was the Great Northern because it’s got that pole attached to both sides so they don’t get loose if you’re out of arrows. But like Jason said, I got tired of constantly practicing with it. Having one arrow out of it and tuning it and all that other stuff. I just really got tired of the bulk.
I went to tube style quivers this year after finding that back quivers weren’t all that great. I didn’t like back quivers all that much. I was taking them off once I was at my spot. They’re not as easy to carry through the woods as people that use them would have you believe. I do think that if you master them, it’s a good way to hunt. But honestly, I don’t see the advantage of them. If you’re pulling arrows with broadheads out of them, they’re getting hung up on each other. they don’t work very well of small game points unless you’re using a strait up blunt tipped arrow. I never have a second chance at a deer I guess that quickly. I’ve just never seen the advantage.
I went to tube style quivers this year, or a sling quiver. That’s what I’ve always liked. I think those work really, really well. they get through the woods easy. They draw out the side and they keep your arrows relatively safe from the outdoors. You put them next to you and nothing happens. You can keep them quiet really easy too. I’m actually using a Canyon Quiver which I worked with Jason to design. I really, really like it. It’s a tube style and made out of leather. Most of the ones you see are made out of canvas, or some kind of nylon or something like that. I really like it. My dad makes a similar style. It’s more of a 3D quiver made out of PVC and those work really well too.