First Time Buying of Traditional Archery Equipment – Glove Vs. Tab

Source: Stick & String Adventures Podcast – Episode 28 – Archers Roundtable

The Continuing Conversation between

Ned Miller – Alright, let’s talk about some other equipment like accessories, gloves, arm guards, and those types of things.  Then I want to move into talking about quivers.  So let’s talk about accessories.  Are there things that you’ve tried and didn’t like?  Are there things that you’re stuck on that now you love?  And what’s the progression been or each of you?  Let’s start with Nick.

Nick Viau – I think your biggest most overlooked piece of gear is your glove or your finger tab.  I have gone back and forth between a glove and a tab forever.  When I first started, I shot with a tab.  Everybody said that it was the cleanest release. It’s light.  It’s nice and airy on your fingers when you shoot.  I got that thing into the woods just to go stumping with it and I was fumbling with that thing constantly.  I was like, “This is not going to work.”  I had a hard time hitting my anchor.  I got really long fingers and I had to pull hitting my anchor a little funny.  I didn’t like it so I immediately ditched it.

Then I got a Damascus Glove and I absolutely loved that.  I could find my anchor really, really well.  It was a really thin glove.  Then I moved to a thicker glove because I thought that I could shoot more and it hurt my fingers because I didn’t really have callouses yet. So, I moved to an Alaskan Bow Hunter Glove.  It was cordovan and it was way too thick. So I eventually got rid of that.  Then I moved to a tab again.  Then I moved back to a Damascus.

I actually have some hand injuries from football and I kept jamming my thumb. I wasn’t able to do a deep core anchor anymore so I changed my anchor. You know, I hated tabs so I didn’t have a way to do it.  Even though I never believed in spending fifty-dollars on a glove, I went with the American Leathers Glove. I’ve been there for the last four months and I absolutely love it.  I can tell you right now, I am never going to shoot anything else.  That’s it for me.  It’s nice to have and I wish that I would have found it sooner. I think that glove versus tab is really important.  You have to figure out what you’re going to do.  You have to get whatever that is out into an application situation.  You have to find out what works for you.

Ned Miller – Right.

Jason Albert – My big problem with the glove is that fact that I don’t have big monkey fingers like Nick does.

Nick Viau – And they’re crooked too.

Jason Albert – I’ve got snausage fingers.  So my thing is that with the gloves, they never fit right.  So, after every single shot I have to tap my finger tips against my chest just to put that glove back on there so it’s tight.

Nick Viau – No wonder you’re not seeing any deer, Jason

Jason Albert – I know, Right?  I’m out there beating my chest.  That’s wrong.

Ok, moving on. So, I never thought like I was getting that glove on the same way twice because of my little snausage fingers. So, I went to a tab.  I went to a few tabs.  I tried the bear fur, I tried the standard leather tabs, but now I’m shooting the Fred Eichler Signature Series Cordovan Tab.  I absolutely love it.  I can’t say that I will ever change again.

Ned Miller – Oh my goodness.  Honestly, I had no idea that each of you took a different route on that.  I was just interested to see the progression that you take because I know people go through a lot of different choices.  That’s really interesting.  I’m glad that it ended up that way.  We got a glove user and a tab user.  That’s great.  Thanks for sharing that guys, because I know a lot of people struggle with that.  It’s almost, like you said Nick, it’s just something that gets swept under the rug and you don’t think about it.

Here’s one of those things too.  A lot of times when you go into a bow shop, a modern bow shop, sometimes they don’t have the tabs.  A lot of times they’ll have one glove or maybe two.  A lot of times, they don’t even have a tab for a selection. So you don’t even know what your options are a lot of the time.

I guess that I will give my perspective real quick.  I use a glove.  I haven’t even tried a tab.  I’ve just always used a glove and haven’t had many other experiences with it.

 

 

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Rasher Quivers’ Custom Order Craft Times

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First Time Buying of Traditional Archery Equipment – Bowhunting Preparation

Source: Stick & String Adventures Podcast – Episode 28 – Archers Roundtable

The Continuing Conversation between

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Nick Viau – I do own a sixty-two inch longbow and I like sixty-two’s in the woods, but…  I actually thought that a sixty-two was going to be a huge advantage in the woods until I actually got our there and realized it didn’t make a bit of difference at all.

“I think my problem has been going through all these different bows, yet I never make a decision”

Ned Miller – I hear that.  I have to say…  I don’t know if it’s confession time or not, but here it comes.  I don’t know if this qualifies me or not either, but…  All the time I’ve been out hunting.  It’s not as often as I’d like to.  I’ve missed three deer.  I missed three times.  I missed high, I missed low, and I missed in the front.  As frustrating as that is, they’ve all been with three different bows.  Now, I’m to the point where, I’m going to make this bow.  I’m going to stick with this bow, and I don’t care if it kills me, until I get accurate with one specific bow and then take game with it.  I think my problem has been going through all these different bows like we’ve been talking about.  Yet, I never make a decision.

Jason Albert – That’s the problem with you bowyers.  All you bow makers out there…  Every time you make a new bow, it’s your new favorite bow.  So you’re always learning on new bows.

Ned Miller – Yup, and I never get enough practice in with it.

Nick Viau – I totally agree with you.  This is the first thing I learned from some of the guys when I told them that I want to start bow hunting in the fall.  I wasn’t even going to hunt that season.  I got talked into it.  By the time I figured it out, everybody said, “Alright is that’s the bow that you’re going to hunt with?”  I said, “Well I only got one bow.” They said, “Start shooting it the way you’re going to hunt with it.  Shoot what arrows you’re going to hunt with.  With the quiver on it or off it. Pick however you’re going to do it and start doing it now and don’t change it until you’re out of season.”  I totally echo that.

I missed three deer last year.  Two of the deer I had tags for just last year.  Both of them were perfect shots. I used a different bow both times.  All season long I was moving back and forth between bows.  I had the R-D (Reflex-Deflex)bow that I was shooting that was around fifty-two inches.  One day I had a quiver on it, the next day I didn’t.  The next day I wanted a mojo shift so I moved over to another bow.  Missed a deer with that one because obviously I hadn’t been shooting it.  Finally I got rid of both of them for the year and I went back to my stick bow and I shot that one for the rest of the year.

“You’re going to remember what you’ve been doing the most.”

I was also jockeying arrows around.  I was shooting woods at first and for some reason I switched to aluminum because my confidence was off and I needed some consistency to get back on target. I missed both of those deer with an aluminum arrow. I missed both of them high.  Right over the back.  I ended up shooting the wood arrows.  I have been watching the wood fly all year round.  I was programmed to shoot a wood.  When I moved to aluminum it screwed everything up.  I don’t care if you go out right before a hunt and you shoot a few to get your mind right.  It don’t matter.  When you got buck fever, you revert back to your most primal state of shooting.  Your most subconscious state.  You’re going to remember what you’ve been doing the most.  If you have been shooting the wood or aluminum and you shoot the opposite, you’re not going to have success.  That’s what is going to happen.  You’re going to miss.  Unless there’s a divine intervention.

Jason Albert – I listen to your stories and I have to say that those are nice problems to have.  Every time I went hunting, I never even saw a deer during season.

“All the flip-flopping around and moving around and changing things isn’t going to be beneficial for you for a long time.”

Ned Miller – That’s a really good point. I wish that I would have seen more deer too.  That’s a good point, man.  I think that’s probably the one thing we need to make recommendations on too.  Sure, you have to try different bows.  You have to try different arrows.  But, at some point you have to stick with something and try to get efficient with it.  All the flip-flopping around and moving around and changing things isn’t going to be beneficial for you for a long time.  Of course, you have to do it at first to figure it all out.

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The Scabbard Hip Quiver – Video

Scabbard_AntiqueMahogany (1)The Scabbard Quiver is an archery hip quiver crafted by Rasher Quivers. It has an arrow capacity of 6 arrows and it is crafted out of 6 ounce leather. The Scabbard Quiver is available in the forward facing model and the rear facing model. It has several color options as well as custom options like the stitch strap option or the snap strap option. There are even options for different conchos. Custom Leather Tooling and Embossing are available for the Scabbard Quiver in a separate listing. Get your Custom Scabbard Hip Quiver Today: http://www.RasherQuivers.com

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First Time Buying of Traditional Archery Equipment – Bow Style

Source: Stick & String Adventures Podcast – Episode 28 – Archers Roundtable

The Continuing Conversation between

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Ned Miller – Let’s talk about something that we haven’t touched on here yet.  We talked about bows and arrows, but what about some advice, pitfalls, or anything that you’ve run into with the style of bow?  Weather it be a recurve, longbow, short bow, horsebow, or any of the numerous types of bows that are out there.  What experiences have you guys had, Good or bad, just starting out with styles of bows.

Jason Albert – Wow.  I went through them all.  I went through the longbows.  I’m shooting a recurve now.  But I have to say that the best bow that I ever bought was a hybrid reflex-deflex with the bamboo backing.  I loved it but, the experience was just that.  I had to go through every one of those bows to figure out what it is that I liked best.

Ned Miller– What about you Nick?

Nick Viau – I started out with a recurve.  If anybody knows anything about my blog, it’s called Life & Longbows.  So I guess you kind of know where I sit.  When I moved to a longbow, everybody wondered what I was doing.  They wondered why I didn’t get a reflex-deflex.  You see, I just jumped in blind to a straight limb longbow.  I didn’t know anything about longbows to tell you the truth.  I just thought that all longbows were strait and that’s what you did.

The R-D (reflex-deflex) bows were fairly new for me.  I knew several people who had them.  I wasn’t crazy about they way they looked when they were strung.  They had this kind of funky forward handle shaped form and a lot of them had really pronounced pistol shaped risers.  I really wasn’t into that.  I was a huge Howard Hill fan and I wanted to get into what Howard shot.  The strait limb longbow spoke to me.  So, that’s what I got.  I’m a pretty tall guy and it shot well for me so that’s what I stuck with.

I really loved how quiet they were.  To me, my bow has got to be quiet or I am not going to shoot it.  That’s just the way I am.  If something is loud, it bothers me and I don’t shoot it.  For me, The R-D’s (reflex-deflex) have kind of weird thunk sound.  I think it has a little something to do with the fast flights (bow-string) and stuff like that most people put on them.  You can quiet them down, but that thump never really goes away and I never really liked that.  That was a really big thing for me.  When I started hunting and I started going the ranges with my longbow, the people would always say,”Why are you longbows super quiet?”  I really liked that.  I liked that really quiet bow.

On the other hand, I agree you have to go to shows.  You have to shoot people’s stuff.  Traditional vendors are great.  You go to a show.  They let you take the bow.  They let you shoot with it.  They let you take a round of 3-D’s (targets) with it. That right there, it get’s you shooting it.  I was real nervous at first shooting other people’s stuff.  I didn’t want to shoot in front of anybody.  I didn’t want to shoot anybody’s gear that wasn’t mine.  Now, when I go, I shoot as many bows as possible. If it’s a big show, I’ll shoot fifteen to twenty-five bows every show I go to.  And as much as possible, I take notes on them.  You have to.  You have got to experience other things before you totally commit to that one thing.

Jason Albert – I noticed that when I first started shooting too.  The traditional shooters are quick to say, “Here you go.  Take my bow and take a shot.  Modern shooters with the compound bows, you’ll never get that. But, with the traditional shooters I’ll be like, “Wow! That’s a nice bow.” and bam it’s in my hands.  I’m like, “Really?  I can shoot it?

Nick Viau – I will say something about the compound shooters though in their defense.  One of the things with them is that their bows are so tuned to themselves that they are not exactly easy to adjust on the fly for somebody else.  With a traditional bow, you can hand it to someone else and they can figure out their draw and their arrows and stuff like that.  If they’re close to you in size, they can shoot your bow or they can adjust their form so they can shoot their own way.

Jason Albert – Not to mention the compound shooters are handing over a three or four thousand dollar piece of equipment.

Nick Viau – Exactly.  For me, there is a lot more potential for things going wrong on a compound than there is on a traditional bow.  You don’t need someone making a mistake with your bow and hurting themselves.  That or damaging the bow.

Jason Albert – All you have to do it twist that string a little bit and the string comes right off the cams.

Ned Miller – There was one thing Nick  was talking about that caught my ear.  You had said that you wanted to shoot a longbow.  That was what you wanted to do even before you started doing it.  You already had it in your head that it’s what you wanted to do.  Then, you kind of made that happen for yourself.  I think that is interesting.  I would imagine that some people would  have a style they want to shoot just because that’s what they’ve seen.  They’ve seen Robin Hood or what ever and they want to shoot that bow. But, maybe when they get it, it’s not the right bow for them.  Or they’ve seen one that was shorter, maybe a horsebow style.  They’ve seen the guys on horseback do it and they want to try it. But for them…  That’s not the bow for them.  It’s funny.  This happened with me a little bit.  I think the bow, kind of, finds you through the path that Jason was talking about. By shooting different things.  And what you both were saying about trying out different bows.  I think that is the essential key to this.

Jason Albert – Not all of us are lucky enough to find a bow right off the bat.

Nick Viau – It’s not like a got into a longbow and all of a sudden I was shooting twelves every time.  My scores went down substantially.  I’m not going to lie to you there.  I shot a recurve better.  I had a recurve for a while and I was doing really well with it.  I was making headway.  I was competing with people who were shooting a lot longer than me.  I moved to a longbow and I had hunting success with it, but I didn’t do very well at the range with it.  I’m still fighting along.  I will probably be fighting along for the rest of my life, but it feels the best to me when I shoot it and it aligns with what I believe in.

“If you are going to move back and forth between bows then you are not going to experience instant success.”

Now, there’s a million different longbows to choose from so…  I just finished building that U-Finish Hickory bow.  I always wanted to do that.  I love using that thing.  My dad’s got a hickory bow too and he loves shooting that thing.  Are they nearly as comfortable as my Bama’s are?  Definitely not, but I love to shoot it.  There’s just something about it.  There’s something about saying, “Hey, we’re going to shoot selfbows today.  Let’s go out on the range and take those with us.  That’s something that if you want to do it, you’ll make it happen.  Be prepared.  If you are going to move back and forth between bows then you are not going to experience instant success.  If it feels good, you’ll still have to learn how to shoot it well.

Jason Albert – That’s something else too.  You have to figure out what you are going to be shooting.  Me, while I have hunted in the past, I am not a hunter.  I am a competition shooter.  I compete.  That’s all I do anymore.  I don’t hunt.  I would like to hunt again someday, but for now I am a competition shooter.  So, my equipment is going to be very different for what I do because I’m not out in the woods trying to be quiet or trying to hunt for food.

Ned Miller – Here’s the funny thing.  I can go along with what you both are saying from the perspective of I do hunt with the bows. I do some 3-D shooting at the same time. I also do some target shooting.  For me, I kind of go towards picking the style first.  Only from the perspective of, I build a lot of different bows.  I shoot a lot of different bows.  I’ve tried the long bow.  I’ve tried the really short bows, the horsebows.  I keep coming back to the shortbows every time.  Sixty inch bows seems to be the ones I always gravitate to.  For me, that’s just been my choice.  I’ve struggled with it sometimes, but I finally found that the sixty inch bow, for me, with a little recurve in it is what seems to be working.  We’ll see once I get into the woods.

Nick Viau – I’m moving into the sixty-nine inch flat as a pancake longbow.

Jason Albert – Nick, a sixty-nine inch to you is a 60 inch to the rest of the world.

Nick Viau – I’m not that tall, man.

Jason Albert – I go out and I buy a seventy-two inch longbow and everybody’s looking at me like I’m nuts because I’m not getting the full action of the limbs.  I’m sitting here with a 24 inch draw on a seventy-two inch longbow.  You should see the looks I get.  The longbow is as big as I am.

Nick Viau – I will say that it looks pretty natural for me.  I look pretty awkward with a little bow.

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A Business, A Deadline, & The Mailman

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It is December 19th, 2016.  If the mail doesn’t go out today, it won’t be there by the 25th.  I have 1 package to go out that contains a father & son’s matching arm guards.  They were meant to be Christmas Gifts.

I get ready to take them to the post office before the deadline only to find out that I have a flat tire, no donut, my car is plowed in, the mailman has already come and gone, and my son has the shovel in his car to dig himself out after work.  I called everyone that I knew for a ride to the post office, but there was no way possible to get it there before the deadline.

So, I decided to walk.  It is 2 miles to the Post Office and it is 9 degrees outside.  I bundle up and headed out for the walk with my wife’s concerning voice stating out impossible options behind me.  I head out the door and started walking as if I was on a mission.  I went 10 blocks when I saw a Mailman bundled up delivering the mail.  He was glad to take my package and I was so glad to not have to walk the 2 miles to the post office and back.

For me today.  That mailman was a blessing.  At Rasher Quivers we do our very best to meet the deadlines needed, but none of that would be possible without God and, in this case, the mailman who is out there all day in this cold weather just doing his job.

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A Quiver For Every Occasion – Hunting, Competition, & Practice

 

Your Quiver is a main component in your archery gear.  It is also one of the most visible pieces of equipment that you’ll wear.  Not all quivers are created equally.  Your quiver can say a little or a lot about who you are.  That’s why Rasher Quivers offers a wide variety of custom quivers that can be personalized to fit your personality and style.

There are a lot of things to consider when choosing a quiver. Draw Movement, Noise Level, Maneuverability, Depth, Arrow Capacity, Arrowhead Style, Weight, Extra Storage Capacity…  This list goes on and on.  The good news is that you don’t need a single quiver to do it all.  Rasher Quivers provides a wide variety of models and styles to fit your quiver needs for every occasion.  There is a purpose for every quiver and for every quiver a purpose.

HUNTING QUIVER

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For hunting we offer a variety of back quivers.  Back Quivers have been tested and proven by hunters like Howard Hill, Ron Laclair, and Byron Ferguson just to name a few.  They offer the wide lip and bottom to accommodate many different styles of arrowheads from field points and trade points to blunt heads and broadheads.  With a custom Rasher Quiver you can order a custom quiver depth to accommodate your arrow length.  With a foam bottom the noise level can be greatly reduced.  For mobility purposes, many roll the back quiver under their arms when traversing through heavy brush.

The Ravine QuiverSling Quivers

If you prefer minimal draw movement, you may want to consider a sling quiver. A sling quiver is strapped over the shoulder, but carried at the side or hip.   The draw style of a sling quiver keeps your arrows right where you need them.  Again, for mobility purposes you can carry the sling quiver under your arm.  They have an open lip and wide bottom to accommodate almost any style of arrow-head.

COMPETITION QUIVER

If you have ever been standing on a line of archers at a competition shoot then you know that it’s not the best place to draw from a back quiver.  it is possible, and it can be done, but those shooting lines can get pretty tight at times.  For this reason, I choose a side quiver, either a field quiver or a hip quiver.

slingerii_wolfField Quiver

A field quiver is a side quiver that has the arrow shafts leaning behind you.  This type of side quiver has been used by Olympic archers like Brady Ellison, Jake Kaminski, Ki Bobae, Im Dong-Hyun , Khatuna Lorig, and more.

 

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A hip quiver has the shafts leaning or laying in front of you. Competition archers of all styles have used a hip quiver.  Ann Webber-Hoyt, Deepika Kumari, Aida Roman and so many more.

 

PRACTICE QUIVER

The Rasher Pocket Quiver

Pocket Quiver

Sometimes you just want to get out there and shoot.  You don’t need all of your equipment for that.  Just grab a pocket quiver and go.

The Pocket Quiver is THE must have archery accessory for the archer who has limited time to practice. Get out and start shooting right away. A Pocket Quiver is meant to prevent your field points from puncturing the fabric of your pockets.  The Pocket Lip prevents the quiver from falling deeper into the pocket so the quiver stays easily accessible.  You can also wear a pocket quiver as a hip quiver on your belt.

Rasher Quivers has a quiver for every occasion. Start your collection today by visiting http://www.RasherQuivers.com.

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